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TheCentralScrutinizer · 26 May 09 :: 15:14

You mean the series? I've seen some of it, mostly the last couple of years. It's great, beautifully written and acted. I know Carol's a big fan so she can tell you a lot more about it than I can.

justme · 26 May 09 :: 17:33

I love TWW! I think the only thing it has in common with "Choose Connor" is that they're both about politics. But usually everyone on The West Wing is very statesmanlike, even if you disagree with them politically you believe they're trying to do the right thing. "Choose Connor" - not so much.

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 27 May 09 :: 07:38

I'm definitely going to watch it. I'll probably get it from the library on Wednesday.

Warbee · 28 May 09 :: 12:52

Ok, so im curious. What do non-Australians think of the movie "Australia" with Hugh Jackman and Nicole Kidman. Whats everyones opinion?

TeeJay · 28 May 09 :: 13:58

I liked it, though I thought it was a bit of a weird mixture. It started off as this almost slapsticky comedy but then turned more into an action drama. I was a bit surprised at first because the trailer didn't suggest at all that it would have so many comedic elements. It's certainly one of the better movies I've seen in the past year, but it didn't make my all time favorite list.

I guess some of it was complete fiction, but I also believe some of it portrayed the real Australia. I'm sure you can speak to that much better than I can, Kate. I'm not a big fan of Mrs. Kidman, but she did a good job. Hugh was great, as was the rest of the cast. Shame on me that I didn't notice David Wenham was the bad guy until the end credits.

How did you like the movie, Kate?

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 28 May 09 :: 15:22

Haven't seen it yet.

Warbee · 29 May 09 :: 01:18

Well i know that alot of Australians are avoiding it like the plague. Alot of films seem to depict Australians as simpletons, and over-do the "G'day mate" "Orhh true blue" "Throw another shrimp on the barbie", things that are more often said to make fun of ourselves rather than in normal speech. But i actually quite enjoyed it. Oh i LOVE David Wenham. He has got to be one of the most underrated actors that i know of. But yeah they seem to play up the stereotype a little bit too much, especially at the beginning. Very ocker. But i guess it could be said the same of whenever the American South is portrayed on screen about fried chicken, or the New Yorkers "forgeddaboudit" that kinda thing. And it was one of those "Based on a true story" rather than an actual true story. Darwin was attacked at that stage and the taking of aboriginal children from their families was happening. But the stolen generation is a very sore topic still now. Originally it wasnt meant to be a malicious taking children away from their parents. But yes it was racial based and assumed that white was better. The idea was to breed out the dark skin. Horrible but true. Alot of it came from the Aboriginal people being nomads that did not value the same things that the whites did. So it was assumed that because a family did not have money, did not have a home that they were struggling and unable to look after children and so the children were taken away from them. Sadly most aboriginals now are in small communities or have a diluted heritage. Also i have never heard of the term "creamy". I think that was inserted rather than using a known term to lessen any insult to aboriginals. But i was just curious having lived in Australia all my life and having known the history behind these stories and realising just how much of the truth and history has been altered or glossed over to suit the story of the film. In country standards Australia as we know it is a baby. First British settlement was Jan 26 1788 and before that not much is known. The history of the aboriginal people was mostly passed on generation to generation through story and song and dance, and is now lost. It was a pretty violent rough and racist beginning and was originally used as a far away prison by England. Most Australians tracing family history will find to have either been an immigrant of a few generations or else have originated from convicts.

Its ok TeeJay, im not a fan of Nicole either. My mum absolutely adores her, but meh doesnt really do all that much for me. However this movie does show some AMAZING shots of the red centre. Darwin is so beautiful. I was a little concerned at the beginning of the film that having such talented actors being wasted. But i did enjoy it. Like i said before i was just curious to know what others thought of it without the same background knowledge that i would have.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 29 May 09 :: 01:26

I know what you mean. They definitely NEVER get the American South right. And the history of the Aboriginal people of Australia is almost exactly the same as what happen to American Indians and Canada's First Nations people. So many horror stories. And now Indians are only one percent of our population and most of them live in abject poverty on reservations. Despicable.

Warbee · 29 May 09 :: 01:43

Yeah it is a little bit of different stories, same history across those countries and the original inhabitants. The horrible part of the stolen generation for me is mostly how recent it was done. People are alive now that were taken from their biological parents and dont know who they were. They dont have a sense of their heritage and that is why it became so important last year when a formal apology was issued. The previous prime minister was very very careful with his words in this situation but chose to not apologise for what they had been through. Mostly because of the political scare of if you apologise you are admitting blame and then the consequence of that.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 29 May 09 :: 02:01

American Indian and Canadian First Nations children were also taken from their parents as recently as the mid 1900s and put in boarding schools where they were stripped of their culture. And often sexually and physically abused. There was a huge scandal in Canada over this that broke wide open just last year. The Pope recently apologized for it.

http://www.niichro.com/womhealth/wohealth7.html

Warbee · 29 May 09 :: 02:12

This was still happening in Australia in the 1960's. Its just horrible and pathetic and disgusting and there is no excuse for it. But its strange to think that we have a very similar background just Australia happened years later. You would like to think people learn from mistakes but apparently not so much. I guess the only plus is how quickly attitude has changed since then

TheCentralScrutinizer · 29 May 09 :: 02:39

I think television, movies, music and the Internet have helped people to become less xenophobic and less racist in a lot of ways. These portals give us an opportunity to explore the world from afar and learn about other cultures in a way we couldn't do just 40 or 50 years ago. It's hard to hate people as a group when you see that human beings are essentially alike all over. And that exploring other cultures can be beautiful and enlightening. At our most basic level, we all want the same things after all... health, abundance, love, peace. Someday maybe we'll figure out that no goal we could possibly ever have is worth destroying each other over.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 29 May 09 :: 22:03

A snarky (no!) review of Mega Shark Vs Giant Octopus...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-men … 08060.html

It even mentions Freddie Vs Jason. LOL!

TheCentralScrutinizer · 30 May 09 :: 05:52

Hill Harper is a brilliant man. I had no idea. I just thought he was handsome and charismatic. Wow. He kicked ass on Maher tonight.

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 31 May 09 :: 07:20

The West Wing is a great show! I've watched almost the whole first season now. Allison Janney is amazing and so is Stockard Channing.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 31 May 09 :: 07:24

Yep, see? There you go. Aaron Sorkin is brilliant.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 31 May 09 :: 07:32

Weird-ass cheesy-looking movie called Animals with Naveen Andrews, Marc Blucas, Nicki Aycox, Andy Comeau and Eva Amurri.

http://www.americanworldpictures.com/tr … nimals.flv

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 31 May 09 :: 07:37

Kathryn Joosten who played old lady God in JOA is great in the show too as well as Bradley Whitford from Sisterhood.

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TheCentralScrutinizer · 31 May 09 :: 19:20

Yeah, Deborah, the Television Without Pity recapper, got me started calling her Mrs. LandingGod. Deborah was a West Wing recapper before she started recapping JoA. She'll always be Mrs. LandingGod to me. Any JoA fan who hasn't read Deborah's recaps is really missing out. They're priceless. She loved Adam as much as we do.

Editsound · 31 May 09 :: 22:20

The high concepts never stop. First the giant shark vs the giant squid, and now Nazi Zombies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-KQh87_V2Q

Simon · 01 Jun 09 :: 00:24

It looks like a fun flick to watch, but i'm stuck on why the guys was saying "Fortune and Glory Kid" in good english, whilst everything else wasn't. Unless it doesn't need a translation, but still it does seem out of place.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 01 Jun 09 :: 01:16

Man, I hate it when zombies can run fast.

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 01 Jun 09 :: 09:50

This movie looks beyond bizarre. It's called The Pig People....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IjSEcWlRdk

TheCentralScrutinizer · 03 Jun 09 :: 16:03

I gotta mention this just because I think it's cool.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41284

I have a particular affection for Class Of 1984. I've seen it a million times. I just recently watched about 1/3 of it in clips on YouTube. It's awesomely cheesy and over-the-top violent, but the performances are very entertaining.

What's the matter with you? What's the matter with me? What's the matter with matter? - Stegman

TheCentralScrutinizer · 05 Jun 09 :: 01:30

"Our" Bones ep is repeating tonight. The one TeeJay & I looped some background dialog for.

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