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Ok. The title of this topic basically says it all for me. So much potential, and then CBS cancels it, and it never gets to kinetic. So sad. But what I really wanted to talk about was the whole Freidman and Judith thing. He's usually so abrasive and mean (in a funny way) and all of a sudden Judith comes and he starts turning into this sweet guy who memorizes a play for her. And when she died he was so crushed. I kind of compare their relationship to Adam and Joan's relationship in the sesne that Joan kind of "saves" Adam and I feel like Judith would have really "saved" Freidman from being a prick a lot of the time. Does anybody else see that?
I love the scene between those two where she walks into his shed and he's all surprised and she asks him to do her a favor and he's just like yeah, without even asking what it is first. it's a real relatioship of trust. I always like contrasting it to his relationship with Mr. Price and how he thinks Price is just like this pahntom that sucks all the good things out of someone.
I find the Mr. Price character so interesting. First of all, his name is Price; "soulless and corporate" ringing a bell? (Does Price remind you of Les Moonves? Ick.) And when Adam says he steals all of people's great abilities and hides them in a coffin: he doesn't steal them to use them, he steals them and hordes them up. I think in season three Ryan would have used Price to do some real damage. As oppsed to Mrs. Girardi, who is this nurturing creature that allows for other people to grow. Hmmm...maybe in that storyline Joan would bring him "back into the light" through her mother?
Guys and deep voices. Greatest combination ever.
Hmmm... lots of interesting stuff going on here.
First off, one thing I always noticed about Adam and God was that after Judith's death, Adam was kind of the only one who ever aproached Joan about her maybe being able to deal with it by talking to God or something. I don't remeber what episode or exactly how the scene goes, but I remeber thinking how cool it was of Adam to take her seriously when all her other friends, especially Grace (and I LOVE Grace) always made these sideline little quips about her being crazy. I find myself wondering if Adam ever spends any time trying to, I don't know, connect all the things Joan is always going off doing with her seeing God. What I hate the most about the show being cancelled is that I feel like Joan would have eventually told Adam again that she sees God, and I so want to see that scene and how that would play out, but I can't. (Insert me shaking fist at CBS.)
I don't know if Adam is a better person to Joan. In the show, everyone seems pretty fallible to me and they all just have to go through these "lesson learned" type phases. Luke and his fear of doing something he won't succeed at, Grace and her relationships with her mother and religion, Mrs. Girardi and her dark past, etc. Also, Joan is more involved with the world than Adam is, so she has more chances to screw up. I've always thought that she was the person who kind of brought him out of his shell and reintroduced him to life, to living, you know? I feel like after his mother's suicide and before Joan he hid in his artwork, and Joan got him to share it, to live with it as opposed to through it. And I know that Joan seems superficial sometimes, but what really got me to like to the show (besides the whole Adam and Joan relationship) is that she really cares about the people around her. She connects, you know? Like the scene in the second episode, I think, where she's sitting with her older brother in front of the playground, and then she asks God to just let him be able to walk, it breaks my heart all the time.
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"Bang her like a beast!" That's my favorite line in the entire movie. That and the ending where that guy asks him if he thinks he's a little young to be a director.
Totally Random: this past week I have not been able to stop watching Strictly Ballroom and Moulin Rouge. It was two am and in and I was in a red and music and dancing induced haze and I went to Amazon.com and bought all three of his movies.Does anyone else here like them?
I went to see it a few weeks ago. So good. The imagery alone would be enough for me to reccomend it, but the story is great as well. Its like an intertwining of the brutal reality of the Franco regime and the fantasy world Ophelia creates/is part of. I would definitely say go see it in the theatres for the "experience" and get the DVD for the extra stuff.
Allatraka here. I first saw a few episodes of Joan of Arcadia when it was on television, but I never watched it regularly and then it was cancelled. Then I saw The Girl Next Door and I loved the charcter of Eli. Then I saw Sisterhood of the traveling pants, and that got me interested in seeing some other things Amber Tamblyn had done and I ended up watching all of Joan of Arcadia on DVD and on Dougfreeze.com/Joan. And I realized Eli was Adam! And Adam was Eli! It was so weird because I hadn't noticed any similarity between the two until I actually looked at the opening credits and I was like "Chris Marquette...that sounds familiar." That just goes to show how much of a good actor he is; totally emerses himself in his characters. Anyway, I love the whole Adam and Joan relationship and I absolutely despise Trial & Error.
This is a great site, by the way. Thank you for it.
Got to be the scene in No Bad Guy where Adam goes to visit Joan and he plays with her toes and tells her that he just wants her to like *him* and she days she "More than likes [him]." Love love love that scene.
Sorry about the gushing, can't help it.:)
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