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therealshell · 12 Aug 09 :: 11:34

Why did they break up Luke & Glynis ?

Why did they break up Kevin & Rebecca ?

Did they have episodes that addressed the break-up(s) of these two couples ?

I really thought that Kevin & Rebecca had great chemistry, and Sydney Tamiia Poitier was/is delightful (she is also half-Canadian).

Did anyone else on the show find out that Joan talked to God regularly ?

Was the plan for season 3 to have Joan and family dealing with the Devil-ish dude ?

Where are the best fanfics ?

I did watch & love Joan when it was on originally, but my memory is going, I think :crying:

TheCentralScrutinizer · 12 Aug 09 :: 15:33

Why did they break up Luke & Glynis ?

Because was never really all that into her. He wanted Grace.

Why did they break up Kevin & Rebecca?

I wanna say that one was because Sydney Tamia Poitier got a regular role in another show (that didn't last). But I could be remembering that wrong.

Did they have episodes that addressed the break-up(s) of these two couples ?

Yes, they did. Kevin cheated on Rebecca with some woman who's book he was supposed to review for the paper. Luke & Glynnis started fighting and soon it became obvious that he was just leading her on and really had a thing for Grace. See The Gift from Season 1. Great Adam & Joan content in that one too. God tells her to give Adam a gift and she thinks it means she's supposed to have sex with him. Hilarity ensues.

I really thought that Kevin & Rebecca had great chemistry, and Sydney Tamiia Poitier was/is delightful (she is also half-Canadian).

I like him better with Lilly. She was feisty and won't take any crap off him. He needed that badly.

Did anyone else on the show find out that Joan talked to God regularly ?

Nope. It never got that far. She tried to tell Adam in the last ep of season 1, called Silence. But he didn't believe her. Then she went away to "Crazy Camp" for the summer and by the time she came home, Adam had read a bunch of books and was ready to believe her, but it was too late. Her shrink at the camp convinced her it was all a hallucination because of her Lyme's Disease.

Was the plan for season 3 to have Joan and family dealing with the Devil-ish dude ?

Yes. He was going to be her adversary. We don't really know any details though. Barbara Hall hasn't really talked about it very extensively.

Where are the best fanfics ?

Depends on what you want to read them for. There are Adam & Joan shipper fics, Luke & Grace shipper fics, and lots of Godcentric stories. Tell me what you want to read and I'll try to recommend some stories for you. And in a shameles plug, I will say that if it's Adam & Joan stuff you're looking for, TeeJay and I have a ton of fic along those lines. She's got a lot of individual stories and then we have an epic fic together called Butterflies that has 30-something chapters and is still ongoing. If you want Luke & Grace, well, I can't help you there.

I did watch & love Joan when it was on originally, but my memory is going, I think

No worries. We're here for you.

If you're interested, Barbara Hall gave a great lecture about the show to a class at USC. Here's part one, you can find the rest of the parts on the page...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGv_EObmvEc

therealshell · 12 Aug 09 :: 16:29

Did they have episodes that addressed the break-up(s) of these two couples ?

Yes, they did. Kevin cheated on Rebecca with some woman who's book he was supposed to review for the paper. Luke & Glynnis started fighting and soon it became obvious that he was just leading her on and really had a thing for Grace. See The Gift from Season 1. Great Adam & Joan content in that one too. God tells her to give Adam a gift and she thinks it means she's supposed to have sex with him. Hilarity ensues.

I saw the episode with the Kevin cheating on Rebecca storyline. It was one of the eight episodes that I TiVo'ed this past Monday (August 10th). Sadly, I have the TiVo programmed to only keep 5 episodes of anything, for some reason, so I missed the other three episodes that aired on SyFy :clueless:

I really thought that Kevin & Rebecca had great chemistry, and Sydney Tamiia Poitier was/is delightful (she is also half-Canadian).

I like him better with Lilly. She was feisty and won't take any crap off him. He needed that badly.

I also like(d) Lilly, but I liked the Rebecca character more. She might have become feisty over time, and I think that the inter-racial aspect of the romance was a bit daring, even though it shouldn't have been.

Did anyone else on the show find out that Joan talked to God regularly ?

Nope. It never got that far. She tried to tell Adam in the last ep of season 1, called Silence. But he didn't believe her. Then she went away to "Crazy Camp" for the summer and by the time she came home, Adam had read a bunch of books and was ready to believe her, but it was too late. Her shrink at the camp convinced her it was all a hallucination because of her Lyme's Disease.

Ryan Hunter DID know that Joan spoke to God; is that correct ?

Was the plan for season 3 to have Joan and family dealing with the Devil-ish dude ?

Yes. He was going to be her adversary. We don't really know any details though. Barbara Hall hasn't really talked about it very extensively.

As I watch the show, it really amazes me that it was axed. Pretty much everything about the show was terrific. I can't really think of any aspect that put me off. Deb, if you can leave me some links to the fanfics, I'd appreciate it. I have read some in the past, just My So-Called Life ones, and its neat to have the show(s) live on. Thanks for the Barbara Hall link, I'll watch the whole thing later on.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 12 Aug 09 :: 16:40

Yes, Ryan knew that Joan was God's girl. That's why he came to Arcadia. To face her.

Obviously, we all think the show's great too. We're still here talking about it almost 5 years after it was canceled. Just tell me what kind of fics you wanna read and I'll dig up some recommendations.

Editsound · 12 Aug 09 :: 18:48

Kevin knew she talked to God, he just didn't know he knew, if that makes sense. Remember the talk (I can't remember which episode) where he reminds her about her imaginary friend. I have always been suspicious that if there had been more seasons, he would have become Joan's confidant about God.

And I think Deb is right that Rebecca left because the actress got another job. Too bad, I always like that relationship too.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 12 Aug 09 :: 18:50

You're right, Rick! Ya-Ya. Of course Kevin wouldn't have been the only one to know about Ya-Ya. Her parents must've known too. Great point.

therealshell · 12 Aug 09 :: 21:25

TheCentralScrutinizer wrote:

You're right, Rick! Ya-Ya. Of course Kevin wouldn't have been the only one to know about Ya-Ya. Her parents must've known too. Great point.

Yes, that episode was on the last SyFy marathon. "Ya-Ya" also sounds very close to "Yahweh," which makes sense, I guess. Deb, please lead me to the JoA fanfics. Just curious, does Ryan Hunter figure in any of them (since I recall reading that you did not care for that proposed storyline) ?

I need to snag the JoA box sets eventually. I have a couple of "for your emmy consideration" dvd's that I bought off eBay ages ago. I watch them when I need a lift.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 12 Aug 09 :: 21:51

Oh, you want to read our fics? I'd be honored! Do you want the epic or the stand-alones? Do you prefer uncensored or PG-ish?

There's no Ryan Hunter in Butterflies or the prequels. We just didn't care to follow that storyline. There are assignments from God though. And most of the characters figure into it, but it's above all an Adam & Joan story...

The prequels...

1. The Haircut...
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2911133/1/The_Haircut

2. Future Prospects...
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3449683/1/Future_Prospects

3. Jane...
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3741376/1/Jane

Butterflies (uncut)...
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3042947/1/B … ed_version

Butterflies (PGish)...
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3029235/1/Butterflies

justme · 12 Aug 09 :: 21:58

www.fanfiction.net/tv/Joan_of_Arcadia

There are nearly 40 pages of stories there, some of fantastic, others not so much. I'm sure people won't mind sharing their favorites. I remember a lot of us listing our favorites last year for another member. I'll try to find those posts.

Also, Laura (magicalturkey) has a livejournal page where she publishes her stories, and she has written some wonderful JoA/Adam-Joan stories. The link to reach her stories is:

http://community.livejournal.com/fic_cr … of+arcadia

justme · 12 Aug 09 :: 22:42

Sorry, Shell. I can't find those posts. Here is a list of some of my favorites from FFN. Maybe other people will tell you some of their favorites.:

"A Friend in Need" by TeeJay
"Awakening" by smurftoes
"Butterflies: the unadulterated version" by TeeJay & sisterdebmac
"Coda" by Mardia
"Counting Kisses" by rwusydney
"Do You Remember" by The Prodigal Chicken
"For the First Time" by Procrastination Queen
"Jonith's Secret" by American Idiot (otherwise known as Magical Turkey)
"Precipitation" by angelgazing
"Reversing the Stitches" by Digital-Dragon-Master
"Starting Over" by Alexandri
"Strangers on a Plane" by britchick
"To Give Is To Receive" by femmenerd
"Visitations" by Artemis Rain

There are a lot more that I really love, but they're generally written by some of the same writers who wrote the above. Anything by TeeJay or Deb is a great read. I love Alexandri's stuff, and namewithheld (tote) has some of the best JoA fic I've ever read. Happy browsing!

TheCentralScrutinizer · 12 Aug 09 :: 22:43

Anything by NameWithheld is great.

justme · 12 Aug 09 :: 22:47

Yep. She's amazing! I have to admit I'm a huge sucker for Adam/Joan. There's a lot of really good Grace/Luke stuff out there if you're into that. The only Grace/Luke story I've included in the above list is "Strangers on a Plane". And even there we find out that Adam & Joan got their happy ending. Enjoy!

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TheCentralScrutinizer · 12 Aug 09 :: 22:55

Oh yeah, I love that one. Grace was awesome in it.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 13 Aug 09 :: 04:29

I love this quote, just posted on IMDb about JoA...

I went to a catholic school...but now i watch it on sci fi

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 13 Aug 09 :: 05:35

Read Butterflies first, Shell. The unrated version is much longer and better than the PG version.

justme · 13 Aug 09 :: 21:06

I'd read the prequels first if I were you, Shell. "The Haircut", "Future Prospects", and "Jane" all take place shortly after A/J break up, but are starting to thaw toward each other. "Butterflies" starts a few years later when they are both finished with college and back in Arcadia. All really good reads!

EOcean214 · 17 Nov 09 :: 03:52

What would have happened if Joan had told Adam and the others about her abilities? Just watched the second season and that is what it seemed like they were going to do if the show got picked up again.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 18 Nov 09 :: 18:45

Seemed like it was headed that way. The general consensus is that Joan would've told Grace first, but where the storyline would go was apparently not discussed with the actors. None of them knows what might've come next. Guess the only way we'll ever find out is if someone asks Barbara Hall point-blank. That is if she chose to reveal it.

Editsound · 18 Nov 09 :: 19:36

if she even knows. It always felt like they were making up those last couple of episodes as they went. If they had been picked up for a 3rd season, they might have figured it out then.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 18 Nov 09 :: 21:48

You could be right, but I thought I'd read somewhere that Barbara had a plan for S3. Maybe not.

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