Evil

Editsound · 19 Aug 07 :: 05:14

In Barbara Hall's "ten commanments of Joan of Arcadia", #2 is that Good and Evil are real. Yet, until Ryan shows up at the end I am having trouble thinking of much evil in the show. Even most of the criminals on the show are given good sides or frailities, they don't seem evil. The only character who might be evil is Lucy.

Or is it that people aren't good and evil, but their actions can be good and evil.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 19 Aug 07 :: 05:26

Yeah, you know, you're right about that. It never really was that kind of show. I didn't really miss having a villain. It's funny, I think most of us felt that way. Most of us were more confused about Ryan than anything. Weird. Rick, you're making me think about a lot of angles I hadn't before.

Digi-Dragon · 21 Aug 07 :: 17:57

Well, if you recall way back in "Just Say No", God told Joan what happened to Helen was evil, yet we meet the man who did the deed in season 2, and he has some good in him. Maybe it doesn't mean that people are evil, but more like the actions they take against one another can be considered good or evil. Remember also that God said in "The Uncertainty Principal" that no one is completely dark (or something to that extent), so it may very well be impossible for someone to be fully evil, but also for someone to be fully good.

Just my little take on things.:)

Editsound · 21 Aug 07 :: 18:35

I agree. It was "Uncertainty Principle" which made me start thinking about this. I do think it is one of the themes of the show, that people are not good and evil, but their actions are. Another reason I didn't like the Ryan character.

Digi-Dragon · 21 Aug 07 :: 18:38

Ryan's an interesting person, to say the least. I wish so bad that we could've found out exactly what was in store with him, and what Joan's task was. Was she supposed to 'defeat' him and protect the innocent, or was he a victim - a fallen angel that needed to be redeemed? We'll never know.

TeeJay · 21 Aug 07 :: 18:39

What I really didn't like towards the end of the second season was this whole supernatural-like element. The way Judith started to appear as some form of ghost to Joan at night. And what was going on with Ryan sort of felt like they were going in a bit of a more supernatural direction too, though I can't really explain why it felt that way to me. We just didn't see enough of Ryan in those last two episodes to even properly speculate as to what BH had in mind for that character. And that's driving me a little nuts when I think about it.

Season three could have been really cool, but if they did the Ryan thing wrong, it also could have ended up being awkward.

-TeeJay

domesticelefant · 21 Aug 07 :: 19:14

Yeah, I also thought that didn't really fit into the show. I mean, it was JoA, not Medium. I didn't mind Joan dreaming about Judith, but the appereance at school was a little too much for my taste.

b11001001 · 15 Oct 08 :: 18:40

Yeah, they really did a lot of things at the end of season two that weren't very "JoA."

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