In Praise of Chris's Colleagues

TeeJay · 19 May 08 :: 22:36

Since I've been to FanForum again lately, I realized they were planning on building a fansite. In fact, I think they only opened it a few days ago. I checked it last week and it was still only a "coming soon" page then. I've been meaning to tell you about it. So Mrs. J.W. knows about it now, I guess?

They posted the two Mandy Lane pics at the bottom of the news items. It sounded like they just found them and weren't even sure it was Mike on them. So they weren't aware that they were spoilery. I hope they take all this advice to heart and play by the rules. Would be a real shame if they didn't. If you think it would help, I can go on FanForum and drop a few inconspicuous comments about what they should and shouldn't do there, disguise it as well-meant advice.

I'm wondering if someone will build another Chris fansite somewhere along the road. I'm sure it'll happen eventually, when Chris's face gets seen out there more frequently. I would really love to collaborate with someone if they have a cool website. What I wouldn't like to see happen is someone trying to work against us, taking our material without permission or do whatever else goes against Chris or netiquette. And, you know, the malicious one in me keeps saying that they won't have what we have, which is a personal connection to the Marquette family and the man himself, no matter how flashy their website is gonna be. :devil:

-TeeJay

larry-411 · 19 May 08 :: 22:57

TeeJay wrote:

Since I've been to FanForum again lately, I realized they were planning on building a fansite. In fact, I think they only opened it a few days ago. I checked it last week and it was still only a "coming soon" page then. I've been meaning to tell you about it. So Mrs. J.W. knows about it now, I guess?

They posted the comment at 9:26 AM. I saw it 2 hours ago and emailed her at 2:52 (it's 4:46 now). I don't think she's read it yet. I have a feeling I know what will happen but I like to run everything by her before I act.

They posted the two Mandy Lane pics at the bottom of the news items. It sounded like they just found them and weren't even sure it was Mike on them. So they weren't aware that they were spoilery. I hope they take all this advice to heart and play by the rules. Would be a real shame if they didn't. If you think it would help, I can go on FanForum and drop a few inconspicuous comments about what they should and shouldn't do there, disguise it as well-meant advice.

They'll definitely need to do at least 3 things right away:

1) Remove those Mandy Lane pics -- they are definitely spoilery.
2) Change their tagline so it doesn't say they are the "only" source for Mike info.
3) Remove the blog posts and post links only. A couple of lines as an excerpt or brief synopsis in their own words is okay -- that's how Lexicon does it.

It will take awhile to look through all the galleries but I took a quick look and what I saw so far all comes from other sites -- the films' official sites, IMDb, Wire, etc. They may not be able to snag them from there and put their own tag on them but that's not our responsibility. I didn't, at first glance, see anything exclusive to me or Mike.

The more I think about it the more I'm baffled as to why they didn't approach us about it before. Obviously they aren't trying to be sneaky about it -- they "broke the news" in a comment on his MySpace. I'm 100% positive they think they are doing a good thing in thier eyes. They just need to learn some of the rules.

I think it might be a good idea for you to post about it. After all, it would probably educate others as well. Then if they get something more official from Mike's people they will be prepared.

Thanks!

What I wouldn't like to see happen is someone trying to work against us, taking our material without permission or do whatever else goes against Chris or netiquette. And, you know, the malicious one in me keeps saying that they won't have what we have, which is a personal connection to the Marquette family and the man himself, no matter how flashy their website is gonna be. :devil:-TeeJay

Same here.

TeeJay · 19 May 08 :: 23:38

I hope I was polite enough. http://www.fanforum.com/23073065-post156.html

-TeeJay

TeeJay · 19 May 08 :: 23:53

The more I think about it the more I'm baffled as to why they didn't approach us about it before. Obviously they aren't trying to be sneaky about it -- they "broke the news" in a comment on his MySpace.

Actually, they were talking about sending Mike a message about their new site through his YouTube channel. They might have done it, but I'm not sure... Nor do I know what they might have told him.

Gee, suddenly I feel like an evil spy!

-TeeJay

larry-411 · 20 May 08 :: 00:01

TeeJay wrote:

I hope I was polite enough. http://www.fanforum.com/23073065-post156.html
-TeeJay

Wow! Well, you said it better than I ever could. I'm sure Mike and his people will appreciate it very very much. Hopefully she will take it in the spirit with which it is intended.

TeeJay wrote:

The more I think about it the more I'm baffled as to why they didn't approach us about it before. Obviously they aren't trying to be sneaky about it -- they "broke the news" in a comment on his MySpace.
Actually, they were talking about sending Mike a message about their new site through his YouTube channel. They might have done it, but I'm not sure... Nor do I know what they might have told him.
Gee, suddenly I feel like an evil spy!
-TeeJay

His YouTube channel??? I don't even think that's posted on his site anywhere. I know it's not on his MySpace. I don't even know if anyone ever looks at it. That's certainly an odd place to send him a message. Oh well.

TeeJay · 20 May 08 :: 07:39

They deleted my post and told me to send Vee a PM. Figures. (They were nice about it, though.) So much for educating people. I saw that Vee has taken down the Mandy Lane thumbnails on the front page and put a spoiler warning in. I think it's because I left her the comment in the shoutbox. I've sent her a PM on FanForum now.

larry-411 wrote:

His YouTube channel??? I don't even think that's posted on his site anywhere. I know it's not on his MySpace. I don't even know if anyone ever looks at it. That's certainly an odd place to send him a message. Oh well.

Jill posted his YouTube name on IMDb a while ago. I guess that's where they got the info from. I also vaguely remember seeing his YouTube name posted somewhere else, but I don't remember where. Might have been on FanForum, might also have been in connection with Twilight or somewhere else entirely. Don't you get an e-mail if someone posts something on your YouTube? If they sent Michael something there, he would most likely be notified somehow.

Oh, and by the way. I just noticed that the website header also says "your only source":

Let's see what she does with the banner and the blogs after she (hopefully) reads my PM. If she's receptive and actually changes what I suggested, I'll mention the header to her as well. Also, why she uses those old Luke images is beyond me. There are so many great, newer images of Michael in their gallery. Okay, I admit that most of the images of Chris in our navigation menu aren't all that current either, but it's not like I've only just put the page online.

Oh, and Larry? Did you check Mike's bio? Is it the one that you wrote? Did they take it from another website without giving credit or did they write it themselves?

-TeeJay

larry-411 · 20 May 08 :: 16:13

TeeJay wrote:

They deleted my post and told me to send Vee a PM. Figures. (They were nice about it, though.) So much for educating people. I saw that Vee has taken down the Mandy Lane thumbnails on the front page and put a spoiler warning in. I think it's because I left her the comment in the shoutbox. I've sent her a PM on FanForum now.

Well that sucks. Do you have a copy of what you'd posted? At least she took down the thumbnails and publicly thanked you.

TeeJay wrote:

Jill posted his YouTube name on IMDb a while ago. I guess that's where they got the info from. I also vaguely remember seeing his YouTube name posted somewhere else, but I don't remember where. Might have been on FanForum, might also have been in connection with Twilight or somewhere else entirely. Don't you get an e-mail if someone posts something on your YouTube? If they sent Michael something there, he would most likely be notified somehow.

I don't know anything about it, what email was used, whether or not it's set to notify via email, or if anyone even checks it. I do see now that she posted his YouTube link on their "Links" page which, fortunately, has his official site and MySpace as #1 and 2.

TeeJay wrote:

Oh, and by the way. I just noticed that the website header also says "your only source":

Yup. I mentioned that a couple of posts back, that it was in both that banner as well as the header.

TeeJay wrote:

Let's see what she does with the banner and the blogs after she (hopefully) reads my PM. If she's receptive and actually changes what I suggested, I'll mention the header to her as well. Also, why she uses those old Luke images is beyond me. There are so many great, newer images of Michael in their gallery. Okay, I admit that most of the images of Chris in our navigation menu aren't all that current either, but it's not like I've only just put the page online.

Thanks so much for stepping in and speaking up. I thought that about the Luke pics as well. Maybe she just figured that's the role he's most known for, which will be true until Twilight comes out. So it does make sense, to some extent, although I agree that he looks much better in many other pics.

TeeJay wrote:

Oh, and Larry? Did you check Mike's bio? Is it the one that you wrote? Did they take it from another website without giving credit or did they write it themselves?

It's not the one I wrote. I don't know where they got it from. It looks like they or someone else wrote it. The filmography looks like it came from IMDb. It's odd, we have a very good bio and filmography and would gladly let them use it as long as they give credit. Then at least we'd all be on the same page. But it is a fansite, at any rate, and I suppose they can do whatever they want as long as the info isn't taken without credit or is incorrect.

TeeJay · 20 May 08 :: 16:37

larry-411 wrote:

Do you have a copy of what you'd posted? At least she took down the thumbnails and publicly thanked you.

I didn't have a copy of what I posted, but I think what I ended up sending her as PM was almost the same wording as what I had previously posted.

I don't know anything about it, what email was used, whether or not it's set to notify via email, or if anyone even checks it. I do see now that she posted his YouTube link on their "Links" page which, fortunately, has his official site and MySpace as #1 and 2.

I was of the impression that Michael set the YouTube channel up himself, so he probably used his own, private e-mail address. But that's just speculation on my part.

It's not the one I wrote. I don't know where they got it from. It looks like they or someone else wrote it. The filmography looks like it came from IMDb. It's odd, we have a very good bio and filmography and would gladly let them use it as long as they give credit. Then at least we'd all be on the same page. But it is a fansite, at any rate, and I suppose they can do whatever they want as long as the info isn't taken without credit or is incorrect.

I don't think it's her intention to go against the rules. She wants Michael's attention and approval as much as the next fan, so I think if people start telling her she's doing things wrong that might piss off the people she's trying to impress, then it better be in her own interest to fix all this. If she doesn't, you're right, there's nothing we can do but ask.

Let me know if you'd like me to ask her for anything else. I think we should wait a few days now and see what she does with the blogs. Will Michael's folks also be contacting her?

-TeeJay

larry-411 · 20 May 08 :: 17:16

TeeJay wrote:

I didn't have a copy of what I posted, but I think what I ended up sending her as PM was almost the same wording as what I had previously posted.

Thanks. Could you email it to me? I'd planned to copy the one that went up on the forum but I was going to do it this morning.

TeeJay wrote:

I don't think it's her intention to go against the rules. She wants Michael's attention and approval as much as the next fan, so I think if people start telling her she's doing things wrong that might piss off the people she's trying to impress, then it better be in her own interest to fix all this. If she doesn't, you're right, there's nothing we can do but ask.

Oh, I agree 100%. If I was in her shoes I'd do the same if I didn't know otherwise. She certainly hasn't tried to hide it -- she posted the banner on Mike's MySpace. So I don't want to take the wind out of her sails. This way, if she fixes it based on fan input (you ) we can then give her official praise and it will be a win/win.

TeeJay wrote:

Let me know if you'd like me to ask her for anything else. I think we should wait a few days now and see what she does with the blogs. Will Michael's folks also be contacting her?

It depends on whether or not she responds to the suggestions. His folks may not have to since you've been so helpful.

TeeJay · 20 May 08 :: 17:24

I just checked, she's removed the blogs from the front page and put in links. The header still stays "only source", but maybe she's gonna change that too. Let's see. Looks like we're on the right track.

-TeeJay

larry-411 · 20 May 08 :: 17:38

TeeJay wrote:

I just checked, she's removed the blogs from the front page and put in links. The header still stays "only source", but maybe she's gonna change that too. Let's see. Looks like we're on the right track.
-TeeJay

Sweet! She did a great job with it, too, posting little teasers. That's the best way to do it. And I'm glad she pointed out that you do not need a MySpace account to read them. A lot of people think you do and sometimes that's the excuse they use for reposting them. They do need to sign up in order to post comments, but that's exactly what Mike's people want and why they posted it there. As a result, they've been deluged with requests and he just passed 2000 friends. That blog post alone has 128 comments and the blog itself has over 30,000 views even though it only has 9 posts.

Thanks again! :grovel: :hug:

TeeJay · 20 May 08 :: 17:53

You're welcome. Those Twilighters sure know how to take over a fandom.

-TeeJay

magicalturkey · 20 May 08 :: 17:54

Why, thank you

TheCentralScrutinizer · 01 Jun 08 :: 04:47

OK, so I picked up the unrated Normal Adolescent Behavior on DVD for $6.99 today. It'll be worth it to see it unmucked with.

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 01 Jun 08 :: 06:11

That's great, Deb!! I have the same DVD version of NAB.

justme · 01 Jun 08 :: 07:22

TeeJay wrote:

News that Larry just posted about one of Mike Welch's latest movies:
Well, folks, there's good news and bad news. The bad news is, An American Crime is not going to be released in theaters after all. The good news is, it's not going straight-to-DVD either. It is going to Showtime.
Can anyone tape this for me? I'll try to find out when they're gonna show it.
-TeeJay

I just watched this, and I think it might be the most intense, horrific thing I've ever seen on film. I'd never heard of it, and watched it on the strength of the leads, Ellen Page and Catherine Keener. It was extremely hard to watch, but what amazing performances! When I read about it and learned that it was based on a true story, it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I think I'll have trouble sleeping for a long while.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 01 Jun 08 :: 07:26

Wow, I'll have to watch this thing, An American Crime. I didn't know it was on. Cool!

I just watched the unrated NAB. It's not that much different from the Lifetime version except for the language and the complete spanking scene. Maybe I'm crazy, but I think it's a fascinating little movie. Complex and brutal and... well, kinda hot. Makes me wanna write A/J smut.

larry-411 · 01 Jun 08 :: 21:55

justme wrote:

TeeJay wrote:
News that Larry just posted about one of Mike Welch's latest movies:
Well, folks, there's good news and bad news. The bad news is, An American Crime is not going to be released in theaters after all. The good news is, it's not going straight-to-DVD either. It is going to Showtime.
Can anyone tape this for me? I'll try to find out when they're gonna show it.
-TeeJay
I just watched this, and I think it might be the most intense, horrific thing I've ever seen on film. I'd never heard of it, and watched it on the strength of the leads, Ellen Page and Catherine Keener. It was extremely hard to watch, but what amazing performances! When I read about it and learned that it was based on a true story, it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I think I'll have trouble sleeping for a long while.

I'm so glad you got to see it. Your reaction is pretty much word for word what I wrote in my review (a year and a half ago!) and what I've been telling people privately. It's the only film I've ever seen which I told my mother not to watch.

My review

It premiered May 15 on Showtime and has been showing over and over. I posted the schedule at several sites. Sorry I didn't get over here to post it -- there are at least 10 sites where I posted it at and it's hard to keep up with them all and remember where it might be of interest.

It's on five more times this week on the various Showtime channels as well as On Demand, if you have that.

An American Crime schedule

TheCentralScrutinizer · 01 Jun 08 :: 22:12

Thanks for the schedule, Larry. Maybe I can catch it tonight. I don't think there's anything else on. I'll check On Demand during the next commercial break. I'm watching Triple D right now (that's Guy Fieri's Diners, Drive-Ins & Dives for the uninitiated).

justme · 01 Jun 08 :: 22:29

There are two back-to-back episodes going, so I guess it's sextuple D today.

justme · 01 Jun 08 :: 22:34

I'm glad your review mentioned Bradley Whitford. He's an amazing actor, and was nearly unrecognizable as the prosecutor. I agree that it definitely isn't for everyone. It is a truly stunning portrayal of evil and cruelty.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 01 Jun 08 :: 22:40

There's always two DDD's on this time Sunday. Usually the one from the past Monday night, which I never got to see when Medium was on. I love watching Food Net on Sundays. Lots of travel & eat shows. My favorite. :drool:

The movie is on Charter On Demand, so maybe I'll watch it this afternoon instead of tonight. That way I can cleanse my mental palette if need be and won't go to bed with something profoundly disturbing on my mind. Larry, I'll read your review after I see the movie.

larry-411 · 01 Jun 08 :: 23:14

justme wrote:

There are two back-to-back episodes going, so I guess it's sextuple D today.

Is it just me or don't you just want to run out to those places and eat those horrific things after you see them on TV? :embarrassed:

Sorry for hijacking the thread...

Sisterdebmac wrote:

The movie is on Charter On Demand, so maybe I'll watch it this afternoon instead of tonight. That way I can cleanse my mental palette if need be and won't go to bed with something profoundly disturbing on my mind. Larry, I'll read your review after I see the movie.

Just don't eat right before or during the movie.

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TheCentralScrutinizer · 01 Jun 08 :: 23:16

I absolutely do, Larry! Nice to daydream. And you didn't hijack anything.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 02 Jun 08 :: 05:35

Watched the movie. Dayum! That was sick. Definitely well played, but not something I ever wanna see again. Off to read your review now, Larry...

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