Star Trek (2008 movie)

Illinoisguy1 · 13 May 09 :: 16:20

Now that I've seen it I've read some posts on other message boards.

What I see is that some think it's a slap in the face to fans because it erases everything that was "canon".

Like Deb said about Race to Witch Mountain, those still exist. You can watch them anytime they want to. It's not like they're going to come to people's homes and erase all of their videos.

I don't know if people have a hard time grasping alternate realities or what. But up till the events in this movie, those events did take place. In a way they still do exist but in an alternate timeline. Now we are seeing the effects that time travel can have and from now on we are seeing an alternate timeline.

This opens up entirely new possibilities in terms of story's. They could adapt tv episodes into movies. Or they could come up with entirely new story's.

Even years down the road they could come up with new adventures of the Next Generation. New Enterprise D, entirely new cast which opens up even more story's that could involve Q, the Borg and the Cardassians.

I agree with one person who said that Star Trek had the weight of 40+ years of cannon to follow. Basically it hindered them. By coming up with an alternate timeline they can basically do whatever they want to now. They have so much freedom now that they didn't have a few years ago.

I can't wait for the sequel.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 13 May 09 :: 16:31

I also agree that it's nice that they've set up an alternate timeline. Gives them tons of room to play.

This is a pretty cool article... http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/us-maga … -trek.html

Simon · 13 May 09 :: 22:59

I know it's an old song but anyone who likes Star Trek needs to watch this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9 … annel_page

TeeJay · 14 May 09 :: 23:10

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1910892

Uhm, yeah. What he said!

-TeeJay

Simon · 17 May 09 :: 17:48

Just saw Star Trek and have only one word to describe it ... AMAZING!

What a wonderful experience watching it, and the whole cast were superb. Loved the shots of the Enterprise and wasn't it something to see Leonard Nimoy as Spock again. Loved the opening and felt like my eyes wanted to well up with emotion. Loved the new cast, and loved Yelchin's accent. In my opinion, he has Walter Koenig spot on. The only complaint i had was that it finished.

and that my brother had decided the moment it started that it was going to be boring. I know he secretly liked it.

Illinoisguy1 · 17 May 09 :: 18:15

Is it ok now to discuss the movie in detail including spoilers??

TheCentralScrutinizer · 17 May 09 :: 19:14

I don't see why not. I think most of us who wanted to see it have seen it by now.

Illinoisguy1 · 20 May 09 :: 17:55

I've been collecting the Burger King stuff.

Got a complete set of the glasses and most of the toys.

I got Chekov today, and boy is he short.

All I need now is the following to complete the toy set.
Original Spock
USS Kelvin
Warbird
Hover Bike
Communicator

TeeJay · 20 May 09 :: 18:34

I actually saw the movie in the theater a second time last night. As you know, I didn't like the movie so much the first time around. But then I spoke with different people about it and I kinda wanted to see the movie again because maybe I just had a bad day when I first watched it.

I have to say, I liked it much better the second time around. It felt less action packed (probably because I already knew what was coming) and I had much more of a chance to pay attention to detail. I still love the casting, especially Chris Pine, Zach Quinto and Karl Urban. The movie definitely had a lot of great moments, and if you put the plot holes aside, it was really enjoyable and fun to watch.

However, this is what bothered me a little:

1) Kirk finding Spock on Delta Vega (the ice planet). How much of a coincidence is it that Kirk is chased by two human-hungry monsters, survives it without so much as a scratch and *then* runs into the one cave where Spock has taken residence??? I'm sorry, but that's just a little too much of a stretch.

2) Nero drilling into earth. So the drill is attached to the ship with a long, unprotected metal chain. Spock severs it by simply flying by and shooting at it. Why is it that no one else had the same idea before? Starfleet must have had at least a dozen ships at their disposal who could have just fired upon the damn thing. Also, uh, same thing about drilling into Vulcan before.

PS: I loved it how Chekov sounded like he was saying, "Captin Koork".

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 20 May 09 :: 18:56

The only thing that bothered me about the monster on Delta Vega was WHY THE HELL WAS IT RED??? Bright red predators would not have evolved on a solid white ice planet.

But hey, it's Star Trek. The cheesiness is all part of the charm.

It's kinda like how I always hated that even though the Federation is a gigantic organization, only Capt. James T. Kirk and Enterprise were ever capable of solving whatever that week's problem was. This is one of the biggest reason I love the book, The Pandora Principle so much. Aside from being about Spock & Saavik, which is great. Kirk is accidentally locked in a vault for the majority of the story and can't do anything. LOL! And Enterprise does not get to save the day.

TeeJay · 20 May 09 :: 19:04

TheCentralScrutinizer wrote:

The only thing that bothered me about the monster on Delta Vega was WHY THE HELL WAS IT RED??? Bright red predators would not have evolved on a solid white ice planet.

Also, how would a fur-less monster survive on an ice planet? It doesn't make sense that the thing was just bare skin and bones. But, hey, I'm no xenobiologist, for all we know those things could have a unique alien genetic makeup that makes up for the things we just mentioned.

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 20 May 09 :: 19:11

Or it could just be yet another cheesy Star Trek monster. Hey, it was still light years better than the Horta.

TeeJay · 20 May 09 :: 19:16

Definitely. Did you see the Tribble in the scene where we first see Scotty? Unfortunately I didn't pay attention to it and only learned about it after the movie.

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 20 May 09 :: 19:24

No, same here. I didn't catch it while I was watching.

Illinoisguy1 · 20 May 09 :: 19:43

A few of these things have been brought up before, I'll try to answer them as best as I can remember.

1) Kirk finding Spock on Delta Vega (the ice planet). How much of a coincidence is it that Kirk is chased by two human-hungry monsters, survives it without so much as a scratch and *then* runs into the one cave where Spock has taken residence??? I'm sorry, but that's just a little too much of a stretch.

A. Even though it's an alternate reality, some have brought up that it has to do something with how the universe is trying to correct itself and that even in this alternate reality that's their destiny to together as a crew. So that's why Kirk meets up with Spock Prime so that he can beam back to the Enterprise and become Captain as he is meant to be.

2) Nero drilling into earth. So the drill is attached to the ship with a long, unprotected metal chain. Spock severs it by simply flying by and shooting at it. Why is it that no one else had the same idea before? Starfleet must have had at least a dozen ships at their disposal who could have just fired upon the damn thing. Also, uh, same thing about drilling into Vulcan before.

A:
According to the prequel books the Narada has Borg technology which very likely makes it almost indestructable and able to repair itself. I don't know for sure, but since Spock's Jellyfish ship is from the future as well that it's possible that it was outfitted with specialized weapons to neutralize Borgified things.

The only thing that bothered me about the monster on Delta Vega was WHY THE HELL WAS IT RED??? Bright red predators would not have evolved on a solid white ice planet.

A:
Just because we see it red does mean that other creatures do. Perhaps other creatures see red as the same color as the ice and snow on that planet.

Also, how would a fur-less monster survive on an ice planet? It doesn't make sense that the thing was just bare skin and bones.

A:
Perhaps it has unique blood or is biologically able to withstand brutally cold temps.

Did you see the Tribble in the scene where we first see Scotty?

A:
I heard it, but never saw it.

Illinoisguy1 · 20 May 09 :: 19:49

Trek has now bypassed Wolverine's domestic take according to showbizdata.com

Trek: $155.53M
Wolverine $153.49M

Simon · 20 May 09 :: 20:57

I remember reading about the tribble before i saw the film and i forgot all about it when i was watching it.

Also just discovered Zachary Quinto has appeared in an episode of Joan of Arcadia (P.O.V.)

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Illinoisguy1 · 22 May 09 :: 22:00

It was Star Trek day for me today.

1st my brother brought over a complete set of Burger King glasses which he got from a friend for free.
2nd, we went to Burger King for lunch and got all the remaining toys to complete my set.
3rd I went to Walmart and bought the Star Trek: The Animated Series for $14.96. Which I haven't seen since the early 70's.

The BK toys I got today were:
2 Original Spocks
U.S.S. Kelvin
2 Klingon Battlecruisers
Hoverbike
Communicator

Yup, 7 bucks on BK toys.

So now I have a complete set of BK toys with a few extras.
And two complete sets of the BK glasses.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 23 May 09 :: 08:45

I love those Kingon commercials from BK. LOL!

RE: Wolverine, I just saw a totally Deadpool-centric TV commercial for it during a Louis CK stand-up show on Comedy Central. It was kind of awesome. They even showed a glimpse of what he looks like after the transformation, but not from up close. I guess they're really serious about this next movie. Ryan Reynolds is finally gonna be a sta-ah.

Illinoisguy1 · 27 May 09 :: 21:22

So Star Trek is now #3 on the Star Trek domestic box office chart (when adjusted for inflation)

1. The Motion Picture $239.1
2. The Voyage Home $212.3
3. Star Trek (2009) $193.0
4. Wrath of Khan $192.3
5. Search for Spock $163.2
6. First Contact $149.5
7. Generations $130.0
8. Undiscovered Country $127.7
9. Insurrection $107.5
10. Final Frontier $94.0
11. Nemesis $53.4

It'll very likely take the #2 position by the end of this coming weekend. And when all is said and done, could be near or above The Motion Picture domestic total and possibly take the #1 spot as well.

Illinoisguy1 · 29 May 09 :: 22:43

I bought the Official Souvenir Magazine today. $9.99 for it from Borders.

Some real nice photos included.

Interviews with all the major stars of the film.

I'm really interested in getting the Cinefex magazine that comes out this summer that will cover the visual effects of the film.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 29 May 09 :: 23:11

Very cool. Yeah, Cinefex is a great little zine. I'll have to remember to pick that up when it comes out.

Illinoisguy1 · 08 Jun 09 :: 22:51

Trekmovie.com is reporting that Star Trek may indeed be released in October 27th. there will be 3 versions:

Basic Version DVD: just your basic Widescreen version.

2-Disc DVD (possibilty Directors or Special Edition): This is must get if you have DVD because of Disc-2 Features.

Blu-Ray 2-Disc Edition: this is a must out of all of them.

also Trekmovie is reporting that Generations-Nemesis will be released on Blu-Ray on the same date, October 27th.

Simon · 08 Jun 09 :: 23:16

The 2 Disc Blu-Ray is a must have for me. I would love all the Treks on Blu-Ray, but the reason i'm staying with the dvds at the moment is due to the theatrical cuts of some of the films. I'm gonna wait a bit and hold hope, that they are re-released with the director's cuts.

Illinoisguy1 · 08 Jun 09 :: 23:28

I have seen some comparisons of the dvd and the blu-rays and in some cases the dvd looks much better. In some scenes the Blu-Ray looks too dark, too the point where it's hard to make out anything in the scene.

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