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Warbee · 13 Oct 09 :: 07:53

Australia, particularly Melbourne have been having too many issues surface of late to do with race and political correctness.

Firstly there have been multiple bashings of Indian students, that were heavily publicised in India but didnt get all that much coverage here. Also another was stabbed with a screwdriver and robbed, causing protests. From my perspective I think that its horrible and disgusting that anyone could do these things to another person. But in all honesty I do not believe the attacks to be racially motivated. The bashing which was publicised in India grossly misinterpreted the ratio of attackers and victims. It was 5 young men attacking 4 other Indian males. It was not 70 people bashing 4 helpless Indians. But I wasnt there so I cant really say.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 … 687507.htm

Then on a variety show "Hey Hey Its Saturday" (this show was aired for years and years, but has only came back on as a reunion show) One aspect of the show was known as Red Faces. This is a talent segment. Or talentless. Half the time its more about laughing AT the person because they are terrible than enjoying the show. ANYWAY besides the point. On this show not long ago an act was resurrected from when it was originally on air. It was called the Jackson Jive. It was a bunch of guys dancing around mimicking the Jackson Five. However they had painted their faces black but had "Michael" with white facepaint. Harry Connick Jnr was a judge on the show at the time and got quite upset about it all. I can see how it was in poor taste, but at the same time feel that there may have been an over reaction to it.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/st … 29,00.html

And now today if that wasnt enough this comes out. We are at the moment in the beginning of the "Spring Carnival Racing". So there are many horse races and alot of attention to it. A suburb in Melbourne, Cranbourne had a day and decided to pull a stunt in which they would race the "midget cup". They had the midgets dressed in racing silks and chose people from the crowd to be "horses". Politicians are falling over themselves back peddling this one and not taking any blame. Never mind the fact that the "jockeys" said they thought it was funny and had a good time.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 … =australia

With each new issue there seems to be an undertone of concern for how it looks to other countries. Australia has the political foot right in the mouth at the moment. I was just hoping that it wasnt being shown poorly to other countries.

domesticelefant · 13 Oct 09 :: 15:14

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan wrote:

I'm sorry, Anne. :hug:

Thank you, Mel.

Editsound · 13 Oct 09 :: 17:31

Kate, I haven't heard about any of these things. And they just sound like some individuals being stupid. I'm sure the world is not in an uproar about Australia.

domesticelefant · 13 Oct 09 :: 18:21

I thought I was on vacation. I just can't find the time to sort out my RingCon pictures.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 13 Oct 09 :: 18:45

I read about the Harry Connick thing and my first thought was that I can't believe anyone would think "black face" is funny in the 2000zies. I hadn't heard about any of the other instances though. Still, I certainly wouldn't condemn a whole country as racist just because of a few stupid people.

justme · 13 Oct 09 :: 18:53

True, but if Ted Danson is allowed to get away with it, it ought not get you tossed off of Australian Idol.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 13 Oct 09 :: 18:57

He's not allowed either. It's just creepy.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 13 Oct 09 :: 19:00

PS: I'm home sick today. Feel a thousand times better than I did this morning, but still feel lousy.

justme · 13 Oct 09 :: 19:10

It IS creepy! But then it did come from the mind of someone who distinguishes between "rape" and "rape-rape". :angry::(

TheCentralScrutinizer · 13 Oct 09 :: 20:12

Yeah, I know. That actually kind of explains it, doesn't it?

Editsound · 14 Oct 09 :: 00:17

I couldn't believe they had Neil Diamond in blackface for the Jazz Singer in 1980, nearly 30 years ago!!

And don't get me started about Whoopie and her remarks about Polanski. I have always been a fan of Polanski the filmmaker, but I have been ashamed of my industry and the remarks they have made about Polanski the man.

Warbee · 14 Oct 09 :: 00:43

The media here is pretty much underlying the "look at how bad we look to other countries". So I was curious as to how much of that was true. Whether other countries even cared. The black-face routine of Jackson Jive was originally done 20 years ago. They brought them back on as it was a reunion type night. Not that I am creating excuses but it has been said that the performers questioned whether or not it would be acceptable to do it now and were told by producers that it was fine. *sigh* I just think poor judgement happened here and it has been blown out of proportion. I am glad to hear that it hasnt appeared to create a bad image of Australians. They really should have known better. They originally performed as med. students and are all now prominent doctors. I guess intelligence doesnt always save you from stupid judgements.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 14 Oct 09 :: 03:14

Bad judgment blown out of proportion seems just about right to me. Even the smartest people in the world make bad calls sometimes.

therealshell · 14 Oct 09 :: 04:12

TheCentralScrutinizer wrote:

He's not allowed either. It's just creepy.

Back in the day, performing in black face was not uncommon. I am a huge fan of the music of Al Jolson, and he was probably the most famous proponent of so-called "minstrel" singing.

I think that its interesting that (in his movie Bamboozled) Spike Lee seemed to be equating a great many of today's hip/hop/rappers with the likes of Stepin Fetchit & Mantan Moreland, in that many of them have become caricatures.

I could, of course, have read the movie entirely incorrectly, but I don't think so.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 14 Oct 09 :: 04:20

No, I'm sure Spike was saying exactly that. And I listen to a lot of rap, mostly old school, so I totally get what he meant. And I get what you mean because I've actually watched a lot and read a lot of stuff about this topic. I think a lot of how we view these things has to do with the context in which they're presented. And we can feel it in our gut when it's just not right.

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 14 Oct 09 :: 05:00

TheCentralScrutinizer wrote:

PS: I'm home sick today. Feel a thousand times better than I did this morning, but still feel lousy.

I hope you feel better soon, Deb. :hug:

TheCentralScrutinizer · 14 Oct 09 :: 05:37

Thanks, Mel. Doing OK now. If I can maintain that till morning, I'll be back at work.

therealshell · 14 Oct 09 :: 06:03

Feel better, kiddo. I have had a toothache the past few days, so I feel your pain. Kinda.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 14 Oct 09 :: 06:23

Awww, that sucks, Shell. Tooth pain is awful. Hope you can get rid of that soon.

domesticelefant · 14 Oct 09 :: 11:36

I kind of want to call my soon-to-be-ex boss to give him a mouthful, but of course I'll hold my breath and won't say anything.

shoothoops22 · 14 Oct 09 :: 17:09

I have an upper respitory infection and a really bad cough. i'm coughing so hard to the point where I think I'm going to throw up. The pharmacy messed up my cough medicine because the cough syrup the doctor ordered is not being made anymore. This pharmacy has messed up too many times. I went to the doctor on Monday and I just found out the cough syrup has stopped being made this morning. I wish they told me sooner. I hate feeling lousy on my fall break.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 14 Oct 09 :: 17:35

Oh man. I've had it that bad, it's awful. So sorry they've messed up your medicine. Hope you get to feeling better soon!

TheCentralScrutinizer · 14 Oct 09 :: 18:26

Wow, talk about your weird clouds!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/1 … 18663.html

Warbee · 15 Oct 09 :: 04:11

Anne - Hope you find another job soon, that will probably stop you from wanting to blast your old boss!

Hoops - Sounds horrible...Its bad enough being sick let alone being given the run around with the medication which is sposed to make you better.

On a side note: Lending money to family is SUCH a bad idea. Even while you are lending it you know its a bad idea but you cant stop yourself doing it because you love your family and know they are in trouble and you can help. *sigh* I would like to think that I will get this money back. But at the same time I doubt it

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 15 Oct 09 :: 04:35

I hope you fully recover soon, hoops.

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