Did God Set Adam Up To Fall?

domesticelefant · 18 Aug 07 :: 23:14

I'm with you, I think she would tell Helen first. It's her mom after all.

I also used to think that she would tell Adam, but well, we know what happened, so I kind of gave up on that, although I wondered, if she would have made a second try in season 3. Maybe if their friendship would become closer again, I don't know.

TeeJay · 18 Aug 07 :: 23:23

I found the thread where we talked about Joan possibly telling Helen. It died quickly.
http://www.chris-marquette.com/forum/vi … php?id=174

-TeeJay

domesticelefant · 18 Aug 07 :: 23:42

Ah yeah, I thought I'd remember something.

Editsound · 19 Aug 07 :: 03:11

This kind of depends on whether you count the last episode or not. I tend to ignore the Ryan stuff. It felt to me like they were planning on turning the show into Joany the Vampire Slayer. So, if you include SWTWC, then I think she was going to tell everyone. Helen, definately. As well as, Grace, Adam, Luke, Glynnis, Freidman. Maybe even Lilly. That is what it seemed like they were setting up.

Now if you don't include that story they were starting, my choice would have been Kevin. He always had the defence mechenism of making a joke, but after that he was often very receptive to people.

And of course, Adam was still a possibility. It would have provided a way for Adam and Joan to be spiritually close, if not romantically close.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 19 Aug 07 :: 04:09

I think I'd like NOT to count the whole Ryan scenario. It wasn't the direction I wanted to see things go in either. And it did seem like God was encouraging Joan to form her own Scooby Gang. So you're probably right, Rick. She was going to tell them all, together. And probably not her parents until she had to.

Editsound · 19 Aug 07 :: 04:41

Scooby doo was exactly what I thought of when I saw the shot of the group near the end of the episode.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 19 Aug 07 :: 04:46

Not Scooby Doo. That's what Buffy and her friends called themselves (and they were referencing the cartoon). I really felt like BH & Co was going for that with Joan, they wanted her to have a gang of friends to help her in her fight against Ryan because that formula worked so well of BtVS.

Editsound · 19 Aug 07 :: 05:51

Doh! how embarrassing, I worked on Buffy a couple of times, I should have known that.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 19 Aug 07 :: 07:31

Ah, yes, I see that. One from Season 3 and one from Season 6. Both very good ones.

OMG! Rick, you also did Pasadena, which Chris was a regular on. He as the the 14-year-old McAllister boy, Mason...

TheCentralScrutinizer · 19 Aug 07 :: 07:41

You also did so many of my favorite X Files eps, I don't even know where to begin! You were there during the heyday. The Morgan & Wong years. Haha --- The Space: Above & Beyond pilot. Wow. I was a fan of Dangerous Minds, too. And Boston Public. Man... you did Crazyhorse. I LOVE that movie. This is an awesome CV. TeeJay will be tickled that you did Roswell. Geez, Vanishing Son, LA Law. Too cool.

Editsound · 19 Aug 07 :: 08:02

I only did the pilot on Pasadena, then they moved the production (including the sound work)to Canada (kinda strange to move a show about Pasadena from pasadena to Canada). And according to IMDB Chris wasn't in that one.

Dangerous Minds is my closest connection with JOA, because it had several people in common, including James Hayman and Annie Potts(she is the most normal actor I have ever met), who were the main producers on our show.

Roswell was also a show in which I only did the pilot, but it is one where I met & worked with the whole cast. So, feel free to ask me what you like.

I could ramble on with stories forever. So, I'll restrain myself.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 19 Aug 07 :: 08:15

LOL. Cool about Annie Potts. Long time fan of hers. TeeJay might have a question or two...

TheCentralScrutinizer · 19 Aug 07 :: 08:18

Oh, Chris did a Boston Public, too a couple of seasons after you were there. You've been on the fringes of the JoA universe for a long time. Very interesting.

TeeJay · 19 Aug 07 :: 09:51

Oh, I love Roswell. One of my all time favorite shows, or at least the first season of it. I don't know if you've seen it, Rick, but I felt that in season 2 they went in a wrong direction, and by season 3 I didn't like the show as much as I did anymore. It was cancelled after that, too. I don't really have any specific questions for you, though. My favorite couple on the show was Max/Liz, and I respect Jason Behr as an actor. Wish you'd see him a little more on the screen these days. I always wanted to watch "Shooting Livien", but that one never made it to Germany. He's in that werewolf thing that we talked about, right? Can't say I'm very enthusiastic about that... Did you meet Jonathan Frakes?

I did see Brendan Fehr in a comedy movie recently, on the big screen. See, I can't even remember what it was called. Something with "weekend", I think. I quite liked him. Never thought he'd be good at comedy, but he surprisingly was. That guy's got range.

For the record: Anne (Samsy-Marie) loved the show as well. Maybe she has some more specific questions.

domesticelefant · 19 Aug 07 :: 10:01

You were working on Roswell? Cool!
Yeah, Tina's right, I love(d) the show as well. Let me think about some questions.

Editsound · 19 Aug 07 :: 10:11

Jonathan Frakes couldn't fit the ADR into his schedule, I think he was working on 2 or 3 shows at the time. So, I didn't meet him. These days I usually get asked about Katherine Heigl.

TeeJay · 19 Aug 07 :: 10:32

Oh yeah, Katherine is becoming really popular these days, what with Grey's Anatomy (which I love) and Knocked Up. Her character on Roswell was never my favorite, to be quite honest. I was more of a Liz or Maria kinda gal. What about young Mr. Hanks? He seems like a goofball kinda guy.

When I watch a show, for me it's usually more about the characters than the actors. I mean, of course I would watch anything with Chris in it, but my first and foremost interest will always be the character. If I'm really impressed with one, I will start looking up the actor behind it (like I did with Adam--and ended up co-running this website). That's probably why I seem to have a hard time coming up with questions about the Roswell actors. I mean, I do respect them, they all did a great job. But that's usually what it is for them: a job. I have no doubt that most of them were quite passionate about these characters, but I can't say that I have a huge desire knowing what Jason Behr is like in real life. And it would kinda spoil it for me if you told me he was an arrogant jerk. (Hope he isn't, though.)

I asked about Jonathan because I'm a big Star Trek fan. Deep Space Nine is my passion, but I liked Next Generation a lot as well.

-TeeJay

domesticelefant · 19 Aug 07 :: 12:46

Next Generation was my favorite and Riker was my favorite character when I was, like 11. LOL

I miss Roswell on TV. I loved it so much! I guess Liz and Max were my favorites, but I liked the others too. This was the first TV show I liked all characters, I think. Not the evil ones of course. This is why David Conrad always will be Agent Pierce to me, even if I watch him in Ghost Whisperer these days.

Editsound · 19 Aug 07 :: 16:36

You are so right to keep the actors seperated from the characters. I completely agree. I have had a few characters ruined over the years by meeting the actors behind them,

OhGnarly · 19 Aug 07 :: 19:50

That's so cool you worked on Roswell! I adored that show during it's first and second season. I agree with TeeJay, the third just wasn't that good.

What was Colin Hanks like on set? Loved him on the show. I just saw him as a creepy stalker guy in "Alone With Her". He pulled it off pretty well.

TeeJay · 19 Aug 07 :: 20:04

I saw Colin Numb3rs and The O.C. His role in Numb3rs was quite interesting because there he actually didn't play a 16-year-old goofball kid. Must be quite hard to follow in his dad's footsteps sometimes, but I think he's taking it in stride.

-TeeJay

domesticelefant · 19 Aug 07 :: 20:24

Yeah, Colin was great on Numb3rs. I loved his performance. Can't comment on The OC though, because I never watched the show.

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