Why do some care so much about these things

Illinoisguy1 · 24 Jun 08 :: 19:48

Posting another beef I have with IMDB posters.

I see quite a few people who are disappointed in a film who automatically call it "the worst film ever". I've lurked on the new Indiana Jones board and I see it quite a bit on there.

I can see some people being disappointed in a film because it didn't meet their expectations or expectations because of hype. But there is a big difference if saying you're disappointed in a film and calling it among the "worst film" ever. I could look at aspects of a film that I'm disappointed in, such as direction, acting, script, art direction, cinematography, sound, special effects and other things and determine from those that it was a well made film.

For example, I was disappointed in Cloverfield, but I can look at the aspects of the film and determine that despite some problems with cinematography, direction and acting that the other aspects including sound, sound effects and special effects slide it in the positive direction. I take all those aspects and determined that it was an average to slightly above average film.

So why is that some can't separate their disappointment in a film and look at a film as a whole and it's different aspects and determine if the film itself was well-made/ good or bad?

TeeJay · 24 Jun 08 :: 20:53

I can't tell you why, and it really irks me too. IMDb just seems to attract the rude. There's a saying: Like will to like. All the rude jerks get egged on by the other rude jerks. It might also be the fact that IMDb is quite easily accessible and things are easily bashed. You have everything movie-related right there, at your door. If people were really interested in discussing a movie and analyze what they actually didn't like with like-minded people, they might have to make an effort and register with a community that's interested in that kind of thing. And for most of these kids, that's not how deep it goes. That requires effort and interest.

And, you know, it's easier to say a movie sucks than trying to think about why you thought it sucked. It's this darn fast-lived society we live in. Everything is made for fast consumption, and often made less to be food for thought. I think it's just something we gotta live with, as sad as it is.

-TeeJay

Editsound · 24 Jun 08 :: 21:04

Teejay, your analysis was much more indepth and thought out than most of the comments on IMDB. I tend to avoid the boards, and comments on IMDB for current movies and TV shows. After a while, the only people looking at the boards, are people who are truelly interested in the movie or tv show, and then you can find some intelligent stuff there (that is where Deb told me about this board, thank goodness)

TheCentralScrutinizer · 24 Jun 08 :: 21:07

Also children --- be they physically or just mentally such --- are always fond of hyperbole. This is the best ever, that is the worst ever. That's just the way they think. Every good thing is world-changing. Every bad thing is the end of the world as they know it.

I'm always surprised when I'm able to strike up an intelligent conversation with someone on IMDb, but it does happen often enough, I suppose. And also, as I said before, IMDb is the sweetest place on earth once you've spent one afternoon reading Talkback at AICN. What a bunch of cooler-than-thou assclowns and posers that site attracts.

Illinoisguy1 · 24 Jun 08 :: 21:08

Everything is made for fast consumption

Even films are now days.

For instance, a summer blockbuster opens up to $110 million it's first week and then the following week it drops 50-60 percent. And that's likely due to the fact that they release one blockbuster week after week, which forces people to see what they want the first week then move on to the next blockbuster that opens the following week.

They release too many films during the summer now days and films simply are pushed out onto the market to get a quick buck before the next one hits theaters.

Of course the haters of anything will take delight in pointing out the huge box office drop instead of understanding that it's how the movie market works now.

TeeJay · 24 Jun 08 :: 21:16

Yeah, and people wonder why such dumb shit (excuse my language) like Superhero Movie keeps being made (which cost literally millions of dollars). Because that's what the masses these days will pay money for! (Or in the case of Superhero Movie maybe not so much.) Which movies make the real money? Either the ditsy comedies or the big action movies where everything has to be larger, better, louder and bloodier. The more the FX cost, the better the movie. Well, guess what, that doesn't always work.

There are so many small gems among all the crap that will never get noticed. Every once in a while, there's gonna be a Little Miss Sunshine or Juno that'll capture people's attention, but that doesn't happen remotely often enough.

Money rules the world, and Hollywood even more so.

-TeeJay

Illinoisguy1 · 24 Jun 08 :: 21:44

Speaking of action films, there are 2 things that bug the hell out of me about them.

1. Cars hitting each other and instead of crashing one of them jumps & spirals over the other,

A very good example is in The Fast & the Furious towards the end. Vin Diesel & Paul Walker are racing each other and narrowly beats a train and then a semi-truck cuts in front of them. Instead of Diesels car crashing into the semi in a realistic manner it does this huge jump and spirals in the air and Paul drives under it and then the car comes back to Earth and crashes.

While it may look neat and all, it's completely unrealistic.

I would hate to see what The French Connection famous car chase with the train would look like today if it was made today?

2. The use of wires in fight scenes.

It just seems that after the Matrix that just about every action film has to contain some impossible fight sequence with people jumping around, walking on walls, jumping 20 feet into the air.

I can accept it in the Matrix because it was all taken place in a computer world. I can accept it in a Superhero film such as X-Men where they have supernatural powers.

But it's stupid when you see an average man fighting another man and they leap around & jumping 20 feet into the air onto a rooftop. Or that one Martial Arts film (forgot the name) where they are flying from treetop to treetop.

It ruins the film for me because it's unrealistic and obviously done with wire.

Editsound · 24 Jun 08 :: 21:50

the film your trying to think of is Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

For me, it depends on the kind of movie, if it is a big cartoon like fast and the furious, then I don't care about reality, just make it exciting and dynamic and I am fine with it. I do think you are right though, if (or should I say when) they were to remake The French Connection, the car chase would be rediculous.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 24 Jun 08 :: 22:22

Can you say Live Free Or Die Hard? Most ridiculous stunts I've ever seen a "normal" guy perform.

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