Fanboys

TheCentralScrutinizer · 27 Apr 09 :: 16:39

The only "reason" I can think of that they would "make the extra effort" is to crap all over Chris, and us for our part in the protests. And you know exactly who planted that seed in my head. This is what I honestly feel is behind the whole thing, but you think I'm "arrogant" for thinking that. So whatever. We're just not going to agree on this one. Whatever their actual motive is, nothing can change the fact that it's grossly unfair to Chris and to us.

And I really do think we should make stickers to put over the garbage cover.

TeeJay · 27 Apr 09 :: 23:19

I was planning on making a new printout of the front cover and put that over the actual front cover, once I get my copy of the DVD.

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 27 Apr 09 :: 23:47

I guess the rest of us will figure something out.

Simon · 28 Apr 09 :: 00:36

Jay Baruchel (Windows), Kristen Bell (Zoe), Sam Huntington (Eric), Chris (Linus) and Dan Fogler (Hutch)

TeeJay · 28 Apr 09 :: 14:35

Illinoisguy1 wrote:

Now of course if they were going to put a mask over Chris, wouldn't it have made more sense to use a Stormtrooper helmet instead?

I think I can answer that, being in possession of the promo shots they did for the movie back in 2006. There are images among those promo shots with someone (I think it was Dan) wearing a Chewie mask. They didn't have any promo shots with anyone wearing a Stormtrooper helmet from different angles, at least not that I'm aware of. So if they wanted a helmet, they would have had to shoot new photos. My best guess is that they just used what they had, which was the Chewie mask.

Oh, and btw, Sam is holding up a flashlight, not a lightsaber. Though I'm not sure if they want to sell it as being a lightsaber... However, if they did, it would have to be either green, blue or red, right? The glow coming from it is white and yellow.

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 28 Apr 09 :: 15:50

I'm tellin' you, Illinois, the marketing folks at TWC didn't put nearly as much thought into that cover as you just did.

They know nothing about Star Wars, nor do they care. Why do I say that? For starters, they hired Steve Brill to do the reshoots knowing full well that he was admittedly not a SW fan and didn't give a crap about the films. Because of that he made a lot of mistakes in the reshoots. They've made quite a lot of sport of that fact in the interviews for the release. And secondly, their marketing department hired outside PR firms to go to the few "premieres" that the fans ginned-up around the country and these people knew nothing about Fanboys or Star Wars or the controversy. How do I know? Because I hung out with the girl they sent to Atlanta premiere for like half an hour and quizzed her about it.

As far as I can see, one of two possible scenarios created that cover:

1) A couple of these "geniuses" sat in at a computer with a file of publicity shots, picked a few that they liked, cobbled the actors together in a bunch and said, "Let's slap a mask or something on one of these guys. As long as it's not the hot chick, heh heh." And they chose Chris at random.

2) The above scenario happened, but the "geniuses" actually did know about the controversy and said, "Stick a mask on that Marquette guy. That'll drive his bitchly little fangirls nuts."

TeeJay · 28 Apr 09 :: 18:24

TeeJay wrote:

They didn't have any promo shots with anyone wearing a Stormtrooper helmet from different angles, at least not that I'm aware of. So if they wanted a helmet, they would have had to shoot new photos.

I stand corrected. Actually, there were pictures of Kristen with a Stormtrooper helmet and also some with Jay with a Vader mask. Why they chose the Chewie mask instead, I have no idea. :clueless:

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 01 May 09 :: 20:48

That's great. Someone gets it, totally. Nice to see.

BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 02 May 09 :: 04:05

Really good review. I really like what the reviewer said about Chris.

TeeJay · 03 May 09 :: 23:29

New interview with Kyle: http://lightsabre.co.uk/ Haven't had time to read it myself yet, though.

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 03 May 09 :: 23:40

I was coming over here to post the whole text because it's almost impossible to read on that site. It's black on dark red and it's killing my eyes. I gave up, figured it'd be easier to read here. So here's the whole text...

The Lightsabre Interview
Kyle Newman
Welcome to Lightsabre. Our latest guest is the director of the love letter to Star Wars, the fantastic Fanboys. But there's a lot more to this up-and-coming director than just that. Please give a raucous reception to Kyle Newman.
Q - I spoke to the guys at the Force.Net the other day, they said to say hello when I spoke to you, so the guys at The Force.Net say hi.
A - Absolutely, they're great guys.
Q - They are, I was on the Force Cast the other week with Jimmy talking about Star Wars: A Musical Journey.
A – My friends were at that, I really want to see that.
Q - It's fantastic, when it gets to the States you've got to go, it's absolutely amazing.
A - How long did it play there for?
Q - It was only the two nights, the Friday and the Saturday a couple of weeks back but the plan is to take it into Europe and move it further afield and then get it to the States late summer I think. But it's back in the UK November. Apparently Lucas was there on the Saturday night. Very cool.
So let's talk a bit about Fanboys, that's what the Star Wars crowd know you for. When did the idea for Fanboys first germinate?
A - I first heard about the project online in 1998 on Harry Knowles website Aint-it-Cool News. I was a student at New York University and I was a huge Star Wars fan, and it just sounded like a cool project.
A few years later I was in post-production on another feature and I got introduced to the writer, I got involved and spent a few years developing it, putting the cast together. It was a side project. It didn't take years of constant developing to get it into position.
Q – So it was very much under the radar when you were putting it together?
A – It was under the radar for the longest time and something we were passionate about and worked on on the side.
come on, who's gonna argue with the bikini?
Q – So how did that cast come together? Did you have the cast in place to give inspiration to the characters, how did that work up?
A – Well, people really liked Jay Baruchell, people really liked Dan Fogler, I met him in New York and knew he'd be right for Hutch. I was friends with Kristen, so people really liked the parts and miraculously we got what we wanted. Seth Rogen came in to the game and wanted to play multiple roles, so that worked out great. Everyone we went after we ended up getting in the film.
Q – So how did Kevin Spacey come to be involved in a producers role?
A – One of the producers, Evan, started working for Kevin's company, brought it to their attention and they loved it and he got involved then.
Q – People obviously remember Spacey doing some Star Wars impressions on Saturday Night Live, I suppose that was the Star Wars connection people think of for him?
A - At San Diego Comic Con he came on stage and he did one or two of his impressions.
Q – Has it lived up to your expectations, the hype around the release and the grassroots support from fans like us which was shown at Celebration Europe where it went down a storm.
A – That Celebration Europe screening in London was very encouraging. It was a very key moment in the film's history for me at least. It was the first time I screened it for fans and the response was incredible! There were over a thousand people in attendance and I could not believe the reaction. That gave me a lot of clarity... to fight for the right version of the film. For the most part I am happy with the release, but I really wish it would have been a wider one because I know there are so many people out there who still haven't seen it. The response from the fans who have seen it has been really encouraging, and there's more who are begging for it. That's a little frustrating, when you know that there's an audience that hasn't been tapped into. Hopefully when it comes out on DVD and when it hits internationally it will. And each time the film expands into a new place I get very excited. I tried to attend a lot of the opening weekends here in the states. I may even head down to Australia for the June 5th screening in Melbourne. I would love to be there for that debut. And when it comes to the UK I will be there too!
Q – It's kind of cool, it's like way back when the original Star Wars was released on 32 screens and a few more picked it up the week after, and a few more the week after that. Fanboys seems to have had a similar kind of evolution.
A - Yeah, we've hit a lot of cities so far. Over 150 markets I think. And this past weekend we added 15 more screens so it's back up to 27. It actually came back to Los Angeles, so in that respect we've been very fortunate that it has had the longevity it's had.
Q - What are your hopes for it abroad, I understand it's in a few locations overseas as well?
A - It is, I mean I hope we hit as many locations as we can, I hope it gets out on DVD in those regions, because Star Wars, which we tap into, is a worldwide phenomenon. It's Japan and South America, all throughout Europe, it's Australia, it's everywhere, so we really want to get as many places as possible. You just want people to see your work, and everyone worked so hard on this and we're all fellow fans.
Q – What was your initial attraction to Star Wars as a kid, what brought you into being a Star Wars fan?
A – It was like my first memory, Star Wars was my entire childhood. loved the Force and the aliens, I would always draw the aliens as a little kid. I think I was a year old when it came out and one of the first thing's I ever saw was Star Wars at the drive-in.
I had all the action figures. Up until 2004 I had every action figure they made.
Q – Did you sell them?
A – I don't have everything, the only two I was missing for the longest time were the Power of the Force Yak Face and the Luke Stormtrooper Power of the Force. I got those two, which was great. Outside of that it was maybe a couple of figures packed with vehicles but I think I had every single action figure. Then it just became too expensive and hard to track down.
Q – Don't you feel that Star Wars is branching out so much now that you could be an original trilogy fan, a prequel fan, a Clone Wars fan or an Expanded Universe fan. There's so much going on that it almost becomes a niche within its own thing.
A – Absolutely, you can pick an choose, which is great. I mean I love some EU, not all EU, I'm a huge Clone Wars fan and personally I'm a huge fan of the Prequels. I love the Prequels.
celebration 4, and the fanboys team take a bow

Q - Yeah, and the Prequels takes a hell of a dig, people seem to really get on the Prequels backs. It certainly did exactly what it set out to do.
A – Yeah, I mean maybe Anakin would have been cooler as a little older and they just used the same actor throughout the three, but you know what? They're George's stories, he told them they way he wants to tell them, he's funded them himself, they're his movies. Great respect to that, he's an independent film maker.
Q – Yeah. people seem to forget that, he's not Hollywood funded he does it himself.
A – I don't think people realise how good the Phantom Menace is, if they watch it again. They haven't seen it in ten years, but you should check it out now that you've seen all of them, or watch them together and you'll realise how well woven together they are, how there's parallels between things that happen to Luke and Anakin and the mistakes they make and the mistakes Luke doesn't make. It's really interesting, there's lots of little details and things that are layered in that make all the movies inter textual. I don't know, it's very frustrating, people just go off on them. "But George, they're stupid", and that's the full extent of their analysis from something they read in USA Today in 1999.
Q - Well you clearly look back at Phantom Menace with fondness, and Fanboys is based around that whole era. Lightsabre has been going since 1999 so it was one of the reasons why we kicked off as a Star Wars specific site. I feel the same as you, I feel that film gets better with every repeat viewing, because you pick more up and there's more going on than people give it credit for. They just looked at the Pod Race and the Lightsabre battles and nothing more.
A - Yeah, I had a cool chance at Celebration IV in LA, they showed all six movies in HD on the big screen for the fans.
Q - Did they show them in the right order?
A – In the right order yes, I got to see it all, it was really awesome. A lot of people who didn't like the Prequels also have a new type of affinity for them after seeing the others, "They're really good, was was I hating on the Prequels?"
Fanboys is set in this period where it's not about...it's 1998 and there's all this hoopla about Episode 1 coming, it's not about the movie.
Q – It's about the expectation.
A – It's about the community, the expectation, the shared background everyone has, the nostalgia for their youth, so it's really about looking forward to something as opposed to criticising the movie in anyway. There's a few jokes to keep everyone serviced, because we know there's people who don't like it, so you have to poke a few jokes and criticise what you can, but it's very fleeting stuff, it's not permanent throughout the whole thing, just a couple of moments. There's a couple of moments here and there, but it's really not about that at all.
Q - I think if we can't take fun out of ourselves a little bit then there really is something wrong, isn't there?
A - Yeah, absolutely yeah. You have to joke a little about everything, and that's the niche of the movie, it's a comedy. You have to have fun with it, we don't do more than have fun with it. It's very reverent, it's a love-letter to Star Wars and to an era, you know 1998 it's trying to be a time capsule not just about Star Wars but about pop culture and music and other movies.
Q - Yeah, that era. Well, like you say, it wasn't only 1998, and obviously we all saw the trailer when it hit the net in the November and everybody went nuts when the film came out?
A – Meet Joe Black had the trailer.
Q – I think The Siege might have had a trailer as well. It was the turn of the millennium as well and everybody was all hyped up for that. It was perfectly timed.
A – Yeah, it had been sixteen years, right?
Q - Yeah, I still can't believe it was sixteen years between the movies, and now that the Prequels have been and gone it...
A - It's ten years since Phantom Menace. 'when you're all alone...pick up the phone, and call...FANBOYS!'
Q - Where did you see Phantom Menace, where were you when you saw it?
A - I was in New York City and I saw it at the Ziegfield in midtown, I saw it at the Union Square theatre on 13th and Broadway area and I saw it like eleven times, saw it all over New York City, in New Jersey with the family. Was it the same release date in the UK?
Q - It was the 19th July, a lot later than the States, that's why I flew over to see it in Las Vegas. I remember Sith was the same day, because we're a few hours ahead of the States and friends of mine technically saw it before I did, and it was just as huge over here. You were here for Celebration Europe, you came over didn't you?
A - Yeah, I came over for it, I was only in London for about 19 hours. Were you there?
Q - I was there, yeah. We were lucky, we had a Lightsabre stand but we were in the dealers area, so we were really busy. We weren't selling anything, they just couldn't fit us in the fan area so Barry Eldridge the organiser was very kind and put us in the dealers area.
A - That's great, I thought it was a really good show, I only got to be there for the Saturday but I was really impressed with the international community. It was a good energy, it was very cool, similar to what was going on in LA, which just showed you that Star Wars was a universal phenomenon, it wasn't like it manifested itself very differently...maybe there's more costumes in the US. I don't know, the scale is a little bigger here for LA.
Q - I think there were about 36,000 over the weekend in the UK. I understand the LA one was a bit bigger than that.
A - Yeah, I've been to Celebration 2 and 3 in Indianapolis as well, been to four Celebrations now.
Q - You planning on going to the fifth one next year?
A - I wish I could have gone to Japan. Are they doing a fifth one next year, I keep hearing rumours.
Q - As I understand it it's Florida in May, so I'm saving my pennies. That's only a rumour, so we'll see. It would be perfect, Empire's thirtieth anniversary.
A - It's perfect timing. So I was talking to Dave Filoni last night.
Q - Oh yeah?
A – And he was like 'When's Celebration?' and I was like 'I don't know, I know they're talking about 2010. I'm going to try and get to a Star Wars Fan Days that they're doing in Plano, Texas, which I've heard is really good. They're fun when you get all the fans together, a shared interest, I wish there was one every year.
Q - Well it would be great to get you over to the UK, if there's a Fanboys premiere. Is that still on the cards?
A - I've asked the studio what's going on and I don't think they've sold the UK rights yet. I keep saying let me do a screening but they're still hoping we'll sell it. They might have sold it and locked somebody in, but either way I'll come over at some point and screen it on DVD.
Q - Well we'd love to see you over here again, obviously.
A - Oh, it would be so cool. Do two or three screenings in one day.

Simon · 04 May 09 :: 00:15

A - I've asked the studio what's going on and I don't think they've sold the UK rights yet. I keep saying let me do a screening but they're still hoping we'll sell it. They might have sold it and locked somebody in, but either way I'll come over at some point and screen it on DVD.

Well, that sounded promising.

Atleast it is nice to see someone say positive things about the prequels.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 04 May 09 :: 01:54

Yeah, that debate is on again on the IMDb Fanboys MB. I quoted Kyle there.

TeeJay · 04 May 09 :: 08:56

Which probably means they haven't found a seller for all the other big European countries, like France, Germany, etc. either. Shame. If I get really lucky and it'll play for longer than three weeks in Denmark, I'll hopefully be able to see it there when I visit a friend in Kopenhagen the end of May/beginning of June weekend. Cross your fingers, everyone!

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 05 May 09 :: 21:36

Fanboys has also enjoyed a huge spike this week. It's up 2,780%!!!

justme · 05 May 09 :: 23:23

Aww! TEOCB is only up 455%.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 05 May 09 :: 23:28

Wow! I didn't even think to look at that one. In fact, I don't really pay a lot of attention to the Star Meter since IMDb is so stingy about even telling anyone what the stupid thing is based on.

TeeJay · 08 May 09 :: 21:58

There's going to be a Fanboys DVD release party at the Golden Apple comic store on May 19th in Los Angeles on the corner of Melrose and La Brea. Kick-off is at 8 PM. Director Kyle Newman and some of the cast and crew will attend! Please spread the word.

Fanboys hits stores on May 19th and is available for preorder at starwarsshop.com and amazon.com.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 08 May 09 :: 22:02

That's cool.

TeeJay · 08 May 09 :: 22:03

Yep. Let's see if we can find out if Chris is gonna be among the cast to attend, but I can totally see him being there.

-TeeJay

TheCentralScrutinizer · 08 May 09 :: 23:53

Actually, I'm betting not. He's already gone way above and beyond for the movie. I think it's run its course for him by now. Especially with the cover and all and not even being in the commentary.

TheCentralScrutinizer · 09 May 09 :: 02:42

Kyle posted this on his Facebook. It's kind of funny.

Starship Enterprise destroyed by Death Star...
http://current.com/items/90029658_stars … h-star.htm

Simon · 09 May 09 :: 12:04

Just watched this video on another site. It's actually pretty cool.

CappuGirl · 09 May 09 :: 16:52

Wow, that was cool. I saved the address so that hubby can see it too.

BTW, I've only seen Fanboys once, but the online clips and trailers a million times. So when I saw this "get your Star trek-name" generator on FB the words "damn trekkies are everywhere!" came screaming thru my head in the 40yo virgin-voice. :rofl:

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BiggestChrisMarquetteFan · 09 May 09 :: 23:49

I want to see Fanboys more than any other movie right now. I've been wanting so for so long! I can't wait to own it on DVD!!

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