#576 Re: Joan of Arcadia » more Joan questions .... » 12 Aug 09 :: 22:47

Yep.  She's amazing!  I have to admit I'm a huge sucker for Adam/Joan.  There's a lot of really good Grace/Luke stuff out there if you're into that.  The only Grace/Luke story I've included in the above list is "Strangers on a Plane".  And even there we find out that Adam & Joan got their happy ending.  Enjoy!

#577 Re: Joan of Arcadia » more Joan questions .... » 12 Aug 09 :: 22:42

Sorry, Shell.  I can't find those posts.  Here is a list of some of my favorites from FFN.  Maybe other people will tell you some of their favorites.:

"A Friend in Need" by TeeJay
"Awakening" by smurftoes
"Butterflies: the unadulterated version" by TeeJay & sisterdebmac
"Coda" by Mardia
"Counting Kisses" by rwusydney
"Do You Remember" by The Prodigal Chicken
"For the First Time" by Procrastination Queen
"Jonith's Secret" by American Idiot (otherwise known as Magical Turkey)
"Precipitation" by angelgazing
"Reversing the Stitches" by Digital-Dragon-Master
"Starting Over" by Alexandri
"Strangers on a Plane" by britchick
"To Give Is To Receive" by femmenerd
"Visitations" by Artemis Rain

There are a lot more that I really love, but they're generally written by some of the same writers who wrote the above.  Anything by TeeJay or Deb is a great read.  I love Alexandri's stuff, and namewithheld (tote) has some of the best JoA fic I've ever read.  Happy browsing!

#578 Re: Joan of Arcadia » more Joan questions .... » 12 Aug 09 :: 21:58

www.fanfiction.net/tv/Joan_of_Arcadia

There are nearly 40 pages of stories there, some of fantastic, others not so much.  I'm sure people won't mind sharing their favorites.  I remember a lot of us listing our favorites last year for another member.  I'll try to find those posts.

Also, Laura (magicalturkey) has a livejournal page where she publishes her stories, and she has written some wonderful JoA/Adam-Joan stories.  The link to reach her stories is:

http://community.livejournal.com/fic_cr … of+arcadia

#579 Re: Square Eyes » TWoP article about TV shows that aren't yet available on DVD » 12 Aug 09 :: 20:49

Yeah, it's a shame that there hasn't been a set released for "Judging Amy".  It's probably partly because the show has had such a successful syndication over here.  People haven't had a chance to miss it yet.  I hope they release a full series of that one someday, too.

#580 Re: Square Eyes » TWoP article about TV shows that aren't yet available on DVD » 12 Aug 09 :: 19:24

I agree that it's VERY frustrating when they only release a season or two of a long-running season.  When it's a classic show from quite a few years back, I think they should do a series release.  Why milk the fans who've already waited twenty years or more.

And Mel, I think a lot of us would love to see that second season of "Huff".

#581 Re: All About Chris » 6 Degrees of Chris » 12 Aug 09 :: 18:45

He really was cute!  Belinda was Doogie's mom, if that helps.  If not, I'll come up with somebody else.

#582 Re: Square Eyes » TWoP article about TV shows that aren't yet available on DVD » 11 Aug 09 :: 23:16

Yeah, there's something going on other than the profit motive.  Some kind of internal politics that I don't understand.  I know that for "Ed" NBC, and Viacom/Paramount had the show creators go through and pick out the songs that the absolutely wanted to keep and the ones they wouldn't mind replacing.  They've gone through all 83 episodes and then the years pass and the network and Viamount still hasn't made a move.:rolleyes:  I don't think the demand goes up, I think people give up and move on.  Or, worse, give up and buy illegal copies.  I would think giving Rhino a cut would be infinitely preferable to THAT.

#583 Re: Square Eyes » TWoP article about TV shows that aren't yet available on DVD » 11 Aug 09 :: 22:38

What I don't understand is, if they won't do it themselves, why don't they hand it over to someone like Rhino to get those rights.  When there's a huge demand for these shows NOW, why wait?

#584 Re: Square Eyes » TWoP article about TV shows that aren't yet available on DVD » 11 Aug 09 :: 22:28

Hee!  I saw a picture of Belinda Montgomery go by up there.

I don't think it would cost too much to obtain the music rights later.  I just think that no one makes it a priority to do it.  It's a shame, too.  I think they could make a ton of money if they got season & series sets of those shows out there.  I hope someone does it for "The Wonder Years", because the score was one of the best parts of the show.  I saw a few episodes from the WKRP in Cincinnati disks, where the original songs were excised and replaced with "smooth jazz".  So sad.

#586 Re: Off Topic Stuff » What??? John Hughes Died! » 10 Aug 09 :: 17:22

Heh!  Elias Koteas was in a John Hughes movie.  Who knew?

#587 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 08 Aug 09 :: 22:55

LOL!  Not hardly.  But they probably thought they'd have another season to do some damage control.

#588 Re: Chris On Screen » Infestation (SPOILERS FOR THE MOVIE BEGIN ON PAGE 15) » 08 Aug 09 :: 22:29

Sand Serpants AND Ice Spiders?  Why do I have to miss all the classics?:P

#589 Re: Off Topic Stuff » I hate people that claim they like the heat » 08 Aug 09 :: 21:49

Same here.  The central air is blowing and blowing.  But it still feels like you need a separate window unit going to be able to sleep at night.  I hate it when it's this hot.

#590 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 08 Aug 09 :: 20:21

Yeah, I think it's really rare for shows to have scripts written well in advance.  I think in a lot of cases they're desperately trying to have scripts slightly in advance of the shooting schedule.  And I think that's probably especially true of a show like "Joan of Arcadia" where the show runner is also the head writer.  So they're really short of time so that when they've made a bad call like this one they can't change their minds.

#591 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 07 Aug 09 :: 02:20

I remember Deborah at televisionwithoutpity.com said that what they refused to deal with is that the third party that came between Adam and Joan was God.

#592 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:54

As it was it was just nauseating.  When you knew it was him but you hadn't seen his face yet?  Sickening!

#593 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:46

Deb, I love how you compared that scene to the Julie & Chuck stuff.  I remember you found a clip on YouTube that was almost identical.  It's sad that this show, with all it's great writing and writers, were reduced to doing it 1975 style so near the end.  Like you said, they handled the subject of teens and sex so sensitively and beautifully in "The Gift" and then so ham-handedly in "Trial & Error".

#594 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:44

Yeah, maybe if they'd had another episode they could've done it better.  Or (preferably) not done it at all. sad  But Bonnie seemed like someone who needed a friend.  And Adam (pre T&E) would've filled the bill nicely.  Then if he'd found he had feelings for her, and there was a bit of a romantic triangle, that would've been much more interesting than what they did.  To me anyway.

#595 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:34

Yeah, and they just dropped that.  About the lying and wanting a night to himself.  That bugged!

#596 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:21

Oh yeah, he was wonderful in that scene in the hallway when he comforts Joan.  But I didn't like part of that stuff with Helen.  Which is weird, because I LOVED that relationship!

#597 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:20

I agree with you that Alexis Dziena did a great job with the role.  She did the best she could with what she had.  But I don't think the Bonnie character was well developed at all.  It just wasn't on the page, it seemed to me.  He didn't seem like he liked her at all.  When he tried to avoid touching her after they'd just had sex?  That was horrible!  And again, so unlike how the Adam viewers knew would behave.

You're right, they did have things in common.  It seems kind of like they were gonna do more with that storyline and ran out of time.  Because it seemed like, as far as Adam was concerned, Bonnie could've just been a hole in the ground.  Sorry to be so crude.  Why make that character an artist unless they were gonna possibly have a real relationship?

And yeah, he wasn't behaving well in "Independence Day", but I can put a lot of that down to disappointment.  I agree with Rick about T&E being like other teen shows.  A desperate move on someone's part, whether to line up younger viewers or please the network brass I don't know.  But it's a sad, and I didn't like it.  Still don't.

#598 Re: Off Topic Stuff » What??? John Hughes Died! » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:09

He made some really seminal movies from my college years.  He'll be missed.

#599 Re: Square Eyes » Director John Hughes has died » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:08

I just heard about this.  So sad!  My thoughts are with his family.

#600 Re: Joan of Arcadia » The Peril of Adam Rove » 07 Aug 09 :: 01:06

I don't think the cheating thing was ever inevitable (or even within the bounds of possibility, if they'd been true to the character), but at some point I think the break-up was inevitable.  I remember really not liking him very much in "Shadows and Light" when he was talking to Helen about how complicated things were between he & Joan, but that he really needed Helen in his life.  Something like that.  It seemed to me like he'd already decided to break up with her and was trying to line up her mother as an ally, sort of.  Of course when he did what he did, that was out the window.  But it wasn't his finest hour.:fedup:  Wasn't his worst either, though.

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